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Motor performance testing explained
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You have slot car and you race competitively.
You have a selection of motors and you'd like to test them.
I have never found a motor that meets the published specifications.
All motors vary one way or the other, from new, and also change with use.

1. Power supply
I have a fusion PSU as shown in the link below

2. Tachometer
You can either buy a laser tachometer like the one below
Or use a Mobile app such as GiRi. See pic
Take an old wheel or crown wheel and place a fluorescent tab on it.
https://ibb.co/2KDytJS

3. Torque arm
Static torque : A 10cm arm can be made of a kebab stick and an old ripped up crown wheel
Dynamic torque measurement requires tools I've not seen in the slot car market.
https://ibb.co/nss58CR

4. Weigh scales
Decide on a voltage.
Manufacturers often state rpm (speed) and G/Cm (torque ) numbers but often fail to state the voltage that these specs are meant to reflect. Some manufacturers quote numbers for 12v , others higher. Some omit the voltage numbers altogether.
Whatever you decide ( I suggest 12v) test all of your motors at the same voltage.

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There are two factors to consider when measuring motor performance
A. Speed
Revs per minute at fixed voltage
A motor that does not rev at a sufficient RPM will not be very quick.

B. Torque
How hard does the motor pull at a fixed voltage?
If the torque is low , the motor may not be able to pull the skin off a rice pudding, the acceleration will be poor and it is likely that the braking will also be poor.

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Testing motor SPEED
Power up the motor and take a reading with the Tachometer.
Job done? Not quite.
Motors often run at different speeds clockwise and anti clockwise.
It is always good to know if a motor has any bias that might be leveraged by installing it in a car where that bias is beneficial, not detrimental.
This bias occurs because of a build quality control issue. The commutator is not perfectly aligned with the armature stack.

Testing motor TORQUE
A simple way to test torque is a "stall-test".
However, stalling a motor at 12v is risky. High current draw can burn the motor.
Thankfully, torque is linear , so test at 4v and multiply the result by three. Easy.
Take the readings at various points in the motor's cycle.
Motors do not produce the same torque at all points in their cycle so take many readings and record the best result you see.
If you take an average you may find your reading are much lower than the mfr. Spec.

I use a 10cm torque arm , so, if a motor is pushing 10 grams on the scale at 4v.
10g x 3 x 10 = 300 G/Cm (the calculated torque reading at 12v)

How to make the best of your readings:
Always try to install a motor so that it runs in the direction in which it runs fastest.

Motors that are clockwise biased are better suited to left hand drive sidewinder&anglewinder or inline installations with the crown wheel teeth on the right ( as viewed from the rear of the car)
Motors that are anti-clockwise biased are better suited to right hand drive sidewinder&anglewinder or inline installations with the crown wheel teeth on the left. (Viewed from the rear, above the car)

Always take a record of your motor testing readings.
The records allow you to monitor the performance of a motor as it ages.
It's good practice to test and record each time a motor comes out of its motor pod.
I have found that motors improve with age but their best performance appears to be just prior to the performance "falling off the cliff".

Be aware that manufacturers often design their cars with no way to install the motor in the direction in which it runs best, even if fitted as an inline installation.
NSR inline crowns can support left and right drive inline crowns but the crown size is more limited by the chassis design on the triangular "evo" pods.
Slot.IT inline offset crowns are designed to be installed in one direction only.

You may have to take your motor and run it in another manufacturer's car to get the most from it.
Don't get tripped up by the installation orientation. Some designs fit pinions at the can end, others at the commutator end.
(Clockwise at the can end is anti clockwise at the comm end and vice versa)

Don't assume that manufacturers optimise their motors to run in the direction that suits their cars.
Eg, most of my NSR motors that show a bias, run fastest clockwise.
Get on top of the information above and implement it.
It won't take long before other racers are aiming that slotters lament at you " Wot've you got in that??" 

AlanW

Do you have alternative testing methods?


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Alan

Excellent post. From everything I read previously, I thought that all these test were technically beyond my skill set...not now!

I'm off to the kebab shop, want one?

I love puttering with gears
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Thank you very kindly, Alan.

Nice article.  Thumbup

Jeremy. I'll take a kebob. It might get a bit cold by the time it arrives in Canada.
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Indeed a great post and an excellent starting point for sure.

I am in the market for a tachometer that I can sit the car on, turn the tachometer on and it provides me with the motor RPM's as this appears to be the most abused item in the car that people try to get away with and have had my motors tested one week saying it is fine then several weeks later that same car and motor fails... increased in motor RPM's, yes it can happen for sure, a new motor breaking in or an old motor been given a IPA bath.

I want to be able to test my own cars and others if they ask, not that I don't trust others, well it is the case a little, I just want to be able to do this testing and checking whenever I like.

I've seen one that you need to remove the motor and place on the machine, what a PITA that is, especially if the motor is glued in and meshed nicely.

Any recommendations? Yes I have that same small digital meter as Alan mentioned, a few others are using that also just not liking the half arsed setup and use (that is what it appears to me anyway)

Watching for replies eagerly  Talking

Johnno
   


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Hi Johnno,

Some styles of tachs use reflective tape to get a signal. Installing a small piece/strip on a tire sidewall or tread will tell you wheel RPM at a given voltage. Hold the car in your hand and power it up. Use the tach and multiply the number by your gear ratio and you're all set to start taking/recording motor RPM readings. Keep your voltage the same from test to test.

7000 RPM at the wheel is 21,000 at the motor with a 3:1 gear ratio. Time to get the calculator out.

No need to take a car apart to test final motor RPM.

Cheers,
Ken
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(24th-Jun-21, 10:00 PM)Johnno Wrote:  I am in the market for a tachometer that I can sit the car on, turn the tachometer on and it provides me with the motor RPM's ..

I've seen one that you need to remove the motor and place on the machine... if the motor is glued in and meshed nicely.

I have that same small digital meter as Alan mentioned  ...not liking the half arsed setup and use

Johnno,
Once the motor is in the car your pure rpm measurements go out of the window.
So many other factors come into play: gearing, transmission efficiency, weight, tyres etc

Perfectly correct to say that once your motor is in the car, it is best not to be pulling the motor out just to take measurements. 

My solution is the rolling road. 
With a unit like this, you get numbers that reflect the whole performance of the car including transmission.
You can then compare cars on a "metres per second" basis and optimise gearing to match other cars that run well.

Unfortunately, at this time  there appear to be no commercially available units so this is a unit I designed and built for my own use.
All of the components are "off the shelf" items and the most difficult part of the build was installing and balancing the roller.

   

Link to design including a full components list and sketch of the wiring here: https://ibb.co/album/7NR8c9

Alan Wilkinson
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Hi Alan, 

That is something similar to what was used at another track and is something I'm looking for, sadly I can triage computers but no good at soldering stupid stubby finger syndrome  Talking

If you interested to produce another I'd gladly pay you for it and your time no pressure though to say yes, feel free to ignore this if you wish, no harm no foul

Johnno


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(24th-Jun-21, 11:09 PM)KensRedZed Wrote:  Hi Johnno,

Some styles of tachs use reflective tape to get a signal. Installing a small piece/strip on a tire sidewall or tread will tell you wheel RPM at a given voltage. Hold the car in your hand and power it up. Use the tach and multiply the number by your gear ratio and you're all set to start taking/recording motor RPM readings. Keep your voltage the same from test to test.

7000 RPM at the wheel is 21,000 at the motor with a 3:1 gear ratio. Time to get the calculator out.

No need to take a car apart to test final motor RPM.

Cheers,
Ken

Hi Ken, 

I've got on those digital hand units the only issue I have with that is the reflective tape likes to get spun off the wheel so not too enthused with that tach

Thanks
Johnno


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Johnno,
I'm not really interested in building these for sale,
Many have asked me to construct one for them, so maybe a slot car manufacturer would be interested if the design were reworked for external psu and safety compliance) 

Please feel free to give the designs to anyone who'd be able to make this up for you. 
For someone with construction / modeling skills and soldering skills, it's all possible, however, no one has managed to replicate this unit ( a few have tried)

Alan
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