[Kevan]

Being pedantic, 'early' 60's is pre-1965, whereas the end of 1967 is late 60's

[Graham]

I think overall I agree, it is a case of "mission creep" in part based on the CSCRA SP4 class which for sports cars is 1963-1967, but also trying to open up the prototype Event to more RTR conversions with the later cars.

So at the risk of causing some disapointments of entrant expectations I will revert back to the "Mission" statement of Early 60's cars only, but I will also allow earlier 60's cars to offer a wider range overall (ie from 1960 rather then 1963)

We will hopefully at some stage return to the Late 60's era cars anyway with another proxy.

[Graham]

Clarification of " wide wheel arches"

They are permitted if evidence can be provided that cars with modified wheel arches did indeed compete within the period 1960- 1965 at any National or International race.

[Makem]

Graham,
Just noticed in the final rules that the Sports Prototype years have been changed to end in 1965.
I must have missed that in the comments.
I had started work on a Chapparal 2F, which is now no longer eleigible, so can you reduce my entry to only Event 4 and cancel the entry for The Sports Prototype class.
Thanks.
Regards
Gerry

[OXO cube]

i missed this also and did the same thing Gerry   
glad you highlighted it 
my Ford GT MKIV build is no longer eligible
have now printed the final rules draft 
currently deciding on a replacement  
maybe one of the Ferrari's , decisions decisions 

Kev

[Graham]

Hi guys,
I am sorry, 
I think I have made the mistake of trying to be politically correct and getting nowhere. So I will suspend this one whilst I try to work out the best way to salvage the proxy.

There was also some aspects which I think on reflection were minority ones and not likely to appeal across the board, so a re-think is necessary.
Hopefully in the next week I can re-launch a more apealling alternative proxy.

[Makem]

Graham,
Don't change your rules for me, it is my daft fault for not watching the chat and starting build too early.
Not a problem.
Gerry

[OXO cube]

same as above here Graham
hope the proxy doesnt change too much , my event 1 & 3 cars are already built to the correct rules set 
only event 2 decision to be made 

Kev

[Graham]

I had originally planned the Proxy as an Early 60's era, with a later 60's period proxy to follow, but as time went on it seemed to have morphed into various cross over issues due to trying to fit cars into Events which on reflection looks very messy, and off putting (even to me).

Also the " Master Build Class" concept, whilst at the time seemed like a good idea based on the older (IPS) does not seem to have generated any real enthusiam as I hoped it might have from outsiders.

Basically we need enough entrants to make it work, due to the rising costs of transporting the cars, and to have enough cars to make it worth running for the hosts and associated host club members to give up their time.

So to try and clear away the "fog"

It will now become a Racing the 60's Proxy (not just early 60's), and I will drop the Construction classification of the classes (but still no procars)

So we wil have 
Event 1 - Hard Top GT's (1960-1969)
Class A (Early 1960-1964)
Class B ( Late 1965-1969)

Event 2 - Sports Prototypes (1960-1969)
Class C (Early prototypes 1960-1964)
Class D ( Late prototypes 1965-1969)

Event 3 Saloon Cars (1958-1969)
Class E  (Under 2.0 Litre Cars 1958 -1969)
Class F (Over 2.0 Litre Cars 1958-1969)

Event 4 F1/Indy cars (Rear Engine) 1960-1970
Class G (Early F1/Indy Cars 1960-1965)
Class H (Late F1/Indy cars 1966-1969)

As far as I have been made aware, those entrants who have started car builds will fit into the appropriate competitive Classes without any changes to the Class Technical Rules. But effectively with this re-structure we can additionally have an Over 2.0 litre Saloon car Class F, and a 1966-1970 Class for single seaters F1/Indy Cars Class H

The motor choice and Technical Rules will be the same apart from the provision to add the new Classes as mentioned above.

All the associated documents will need to be revised, but hopefully this will give a more inclusive proxy for everyone.

[Graham]

OK, so having moved things about abit and made some changes to the dimensional limits specific for the new Class structure, I believe we are OK.

So the changes made are:
There is no "Masterbuild" Event Classes, although we will still have the overall "Spirit of the Proxy" Concorse Award.

Instead the Events 1,2 & 4 are split into Classes for either Early/late 60's cars or in the case of Event 3 Under/Over 2.0 Litre Saloon/Sedans. A winner for each Class (no runners up awards).

So PLEASE READ THE REVISED RULES before continuing with your builds.

Good luck!