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Rally Cars Slotting Proxy 2023
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Wavegreen Good Morning,

I know it seems a long way off........but believe me it is "just around the corner"

   

I will start with a bit of intro

After the Slotting Car Proxy Club voted in July this topic as one of their preferred themes for next year, I decided that it should be in essence run on Rally Stages that best simulate what the topic is about. Hence it will be a contest about the cars ability to negotiate some very testing slot car tracks set up at clubs or with individual hosts for the purpose of running Rally cars.

In general I will refer to these as either "Rally/Hillclimb Stages" or "Tarmac stages", the former can be based on ready made routed wood single lane tracks or similar plastic track based single lane tracks. The latter "Tarmac Stages" will be based on short club or individual host track circuits, and again either wood or plastic tracks.
There will be no large fast Club tracks used for this particular Proxy.

The "Rally /Hillclimb  stages" will include steep inclines and tight corners, ramps are possible and hump back bridges, rough surfaces, or slippery sliding  surfaces.
We have 10 hosts/clubs volunteering to put our cars through these challenges, and each host can potentially run up to two Rally Stages. Each Host Round will count as the combined running results from the number of stages they run (ie either one or two). And the points will be awarded from the final results of each Host Round.

We have some new host/clubs who have offered their services, and I am extremely grateful for their participation. Unfortunately not all our regular hosts could be included in this specialised  Proxy series but I hope that they will be willing to participate again the latter part of next year, when we return to a more conventional "Raceway" based track themed proxy

So here is the Provisional Schedule proposal for the series next year, I am sure there maybe changes along the way before we reach the critical dates, but I will update the schedule if necessary as we run up to the end of the year.

   

Rally Cars
Although not mandatory it is recommended to fit guides with suspension because of the nature of the tracks, and additionally fitting cars with motor mount or wheel suspension may be advantageous. Long wheelbase cars (ie in the Monte Carlo Event) may struggle to get round the tight corners and steep inclines. So I would void entering them. A reminder that All cars entered must have both a driver and navigator, Rally decals and Livery appropriate to the Event in which the car is entered.

Series Format (Revised) The format will now follow the conventional practise for slot car Rally Events.
Therefore for every Stage in the round each competing car will be measured for the overall time (including de-slots) taken to  complete the Stage.
And each subsequent stage will add onto the accumulated overall time. So for this Proxy there will not be points allocated for finishing positions at each stage or Round. It will be one continuous series of stages.

The four Events will be run separately in any order as chosen by the host. A time will not be posted for any car which is felt to be incapable by the host of completing the round and a default or time out will be allocated.

After each Round (1-2 Stages) the run times of each car in each Event will be ordered and posted on the Slotracer online forum. There will be no ongoing Team or Car class results. These will be determined at the end of the series.

Rally Proxy Round Scoring and Awards
Event Winner -At the end of the Series of Rounds the Event winners will be announced (one for each Event), based on the shortest overall time taken for each car to completed the series.
The Team Award - will be for the shortest completion time for the combined two cars of the Team

Normally in the live Slot Rally UK Events awards are given for the fastest cars of similar types eg, Scalex, SCX, Ninco, Team Slot etc. However our resources are more limited so we will Award this aspect in terms of our 4 Car Class types. This will replace the awards we would normally allocate for 2nd or 3rd place positions for each Event.

Class (Car construction) Winner (A,B,C,D)- this will be for shortest completion time for each car within a Class (across the 4 Events). It will be a requirement that there has to be a minimum entry number across the 4 Events for a Class Winners medal to be awarded. For example if we have 40 cars overall (10 per Event) there must be at least 7 cars of the same Class type across the 4 Events, to be valid. But this minimum class number will be decided once we know exactly how many entered cars we have overall in the Proxy.

The "Best Presented Car" will be declared at the end of the series, and will be chosen by a "entrants vote" and will be the highest scoring car from the 4 Events.

Technical Rules
I will not be changing or modifying them from now on.
and are as attached
.pdf Rally Cars Slotting Rules v7.pdf Size: 82.44 KB  Downloads: 62


Rally guides
Please ensure your cars have a suitable Rally slot guide profile.
   
Any guides fitted with protruding front blades, or too thick or too long will simply not work.
All these guides above have blades 5.6mm deep, 18-19mm long and 1.6-1.7mm thick which is ideal for this Proxy.
Guide stems fitted with springs.
Please do not fit wood guides etc


Final Event Car lists and explanation
This is the list of cars eligible for the each of the four events included in the series
Event 1 (Monte Carlo) pre 66 Rally cars
This is intended to be a list of cars which competed in the Monte Carlo Rally up until 1966. In those early days many cars were driven across Europe and UK from different starting points in which was effectively a "Road Race" sometimes with whole families on board. 
.pdf Event 1 Classic Rally Cars pre66 Eligible Cars.pdf Size: 22.63 KB  Downloads: 36

Event 2 ( Class B Rally Cars) 1983-1987
This was a relatively short period of Rally history which permitted the use of specially developed "prototype" based cars of limited model production (if at all).
It was a narrow band of cars which were homologated into Rally Class B, so I have expanded the Event car list somewhat to include Rally Cars based on Group 5 Sports cars and other similar low production based cars prior to the Historic official Class B Classification allocated to these models. Some of the models listed were also homologated into what was Rally Group 4 cars.
.pdf Event 2 Rally B Car List.pdf Size: 16.71 KB  Downloads: 184

Event 3 (Sports & Touring Rally cars) (1966- 1996)
Historically referred to as Class 2, 3 &4 Rally cars mostly based on Touring cars. But here I have omitted some Class 4 cars which were also homologated into Rally Class B.
.pdf Event 3 Rally cars 66-96.pdf Size: 18.74 KB  Downloads: 74



Event 4 (WRC) 1997-to date
This is cars which are recognised as having taken part in the modern WRC series based on production Touring cars.
.pdf Event 4 WRC Car List.pdf Size: 17.47 KB  Downloads: 126


So hopefully all the questions have now been resolved, I will start the Official entry list in October/November, but if you want to add your intention to enter on this thread please feel free to do so.

   
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The choice is bewildering and exciting...  Thumbup

At the moment there two entrants from the Manx Slot Car Club, I'm in the process of persuading other potentially interested club members.

Life is like a box of Slot cars... Cool Drinkingcheers
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Photos of the Rally stages would be a great idea...here's one we prepared earlier today...lying on a 40-50mm steep slope...it's still dusty but getting there.  This is the new modular stage bought from Pendles, still as yet unnamed.


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Wavegreen Good Morning,

I have amended and updated the original "Proposed Schedule" in the above posting to that of "Provisional Schedule " based on the latest information available from the hosts/clubs  Sun
And I corrected the title of eligible cars for Event 3 from "Touring cars" to "Sports & Touring Cars"
Finally I have added the Format we will be using to score the cars placings by the hosts for each Round and how the points will be awarded/deducted by the RoadRace Administrator (me)

And finally (based on Kevans post above)I could not help but share this photo of the Wye Valley Club "Nemesis Rally Stage" or "30ft of fear" (as it says on the side)  Rofl
Which we hope will be a featured stage in this proxy.

   
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And a more gentle challenge......."Spen Brook"

This is a track which I purchased from Pendle Slot Racing Club, and will feature as one of my Stages next year, although I have still to make a stand for it to sit on. And I have banned the RoadRunners from using it until the week of the event.

   
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30FoF is going to suit short WB cars  Bigsmile

Here's our other Rally stage...aptly named TT Grandstand...this is a Monogram Porsche 904GTS on a brass & wire chassis


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Grip isn't an issue for your Porsche.
I think at the very least the drivers will have a headache and neck pain at the finish. Ambulance Ambulance
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(5th-Sep-22, 01:19 PM)rallyhub Wrote:  Grip isn't an issue for your Porsche.
I think at the very least the drivers will have a headache and neck pain at the finish. Ambulance Ambulance
We need to see this 904 compete in a proxy or 2.  I think it could clean up in the B Class of the Autumn Proxy.
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Yes plenty of grip on TT Grandstand, umpteen thousands of laps of rubber over the last 7 years+ whereas the new modular stage is green so to speak.

As for the 904GTS, sadly as it has a brass & wire chassis it's not eligible for the R.C.S.Proxy 2023...maybe a 3D chassis is required

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(5th-Sep-22, 03:59 PM)Kevan Wrote:  Yes plenty of grip on TT Grandstand, umpteen thousands of laps of rubber over the last 7 years+ whereas the new modular stage is green so to speak.

As for the 904GTS, sadly as it has a brass & wire chassis it's not eligible for the R.C.S.Proxy 2023...maybe a 3D chassis is required
Autumn Race allows brass we have 9 cars in the class.   Check in w Graham
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