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News "Triple Crown" Slot Car Proxy Series 2022
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Wavegreen God Morning,

So just before we move onto Class C here is a photo of my Carrera Panamericana type "off the shelf 50's cars"

   

But of course they can be any of the cars listed over the 50's or 60's
The Porsche, Chevrolet, Healey and Ferrari are Ninco's and the Beetle is from Pink-Kar

I was also reminded about "Rally cars", I don't have a historic list of such cars of the period (although I made a mental note to look out for one) but I do know that mostly they are the same, especially those which run in the "Tour De France". However they are all welcome to enter this this Class. I did find a listing in the racingsportscars website for a couple of Rally's both in the USA and in Europe but they were quite limited.
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Class C is the most exclusive of the 4 classes reserved for the muscle cars used in the Classic Trans Am period (1966-1972) an NASCAR racing from 1960 -1972, although Oval Nascar racing started with Stock Car's in the 30's which then became the NASCAR series from 1947. Many of the cars were common entered in both racing series during the period I chosen.

These cars have been popular slot cars from Scalextric, Carrera, Revell and Pioneer, and many static kits available to convert for those who wish to. I particularly wanted these cars included for their blatantly bright decorative Livery and so any entry into this class will be viewed with scrutiny to ensure that the decoration is that which was typical of these cars during the period. It is a good opportunity for those with such "shelf Queen cars" to let them loose on the highway  Rofl
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Trans Am & NASCARS (Class C)
General Requirements- For cars with engine size above 2 litres which took part in Trans Am, NASCAR or Bathurst 100 between 1960 until 1972. Must be 1/32 scale. The cars should be decorated with the typical livery of cars raced in this class.
Cars can be RTR branded slot cars, kit based or scratch build.
Class C Rules: (All parts must be commercially available)
C1) Motors
Free choice of motor type with a manufacturer’s rating not exceeding 20,000rpm at 12 volts. Orientation of the motor is free
C2) Gears
Free choice of gears and gear ratio.
C3) Wheels
Free choice of wheels but they must be representative of the type fitted in scale to the real models with representative wheel inserts fitted.
C4) Tyres
Front wheels and tyres – Any rubber or polyurethane tyre compound can be used with minimum wheel with tyre diameter of 17mm and width minimum of 6mm
Rear wheel and tyres – Any rubber or polyurethane tyre compound can be used with minimum wheel with tyre diameter of 19mm and maximum width of 10mm
C5) Axles
Free choice but must not protrude outside wheel hub.
C6) Slot Guide
Maximum guide blade depth 6mm and 1.55 mm thick
Any car may have an easy fit guide replaced with a conventional wired guide with the necessary minimum modifications to the chassis.
Motor wires and braids are free choice.
C7) Lights etc
Any car fitted with lights may have the light bulbs, LED’s, wiring, PC board and other fittings removed.
C8) Ballast

Ballast weight may be added to any car as desired, provided that it is placed within the confines of the body and chassis and is firmly glued in place.

C9) Body

All body shells must be made of hard plastic, glass fibre, resin or 3D printed. Vacuum formed lightweight shells are not permitted.

Windscreen and window mouldings must be provided but can be made of clear vacuum formed plastic. Rear view mirrors may be omitted but all other details parts must remain as fitted, wheel inserts must be fitted.

Vaccuum formed or lexan interiors are permitted but must be realistic and be a 3d representation of driver and interior. Wheel inserts must be fitted.

C10) Chassis

The chassis can be as that which was supplied as a RTR model, alternatively the use of 3d printed, universal chassis or brass constructed is permitted.

C11) Ground clearance and dimensional requirements

Minimum motor to track clearance 1.5mm. All four tyres must touch the track surface when placed on the track and all four wheels must rotate.
Maximum overall outside tyre wall width 64mm

The car list 
I have attached a list of cars which I hope is fairly comprehensive but probably less complete than the others, so quite happy to receive additional suggestions which I am not aware of.


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.pdf Road Race Class C Rules.pdf Size: 30.87 KB  Downloads: 145
.pdf Trans Am & NASCAR 60-70 Eligibility list.pdf Size: 17.34 KB  Downloads: 138
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And I have some photos few cars of my own to wet your appetite

The NASCARS

                      

            Revell Monogram                                                                                                      Carrera



And the Classic Trans Am

   

Scalextric & SCX (Plymouth Barracuda)
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(9th-Nov-21, 07:01 PM)Graham Wrote:                                             Rules for “American Trophy – Road Race


                                                   Basic Rules for Classes A, B, C, D
Maximum guide flag depth 6mm, thickness maximum 1.7mm and length 21.5mm. No wood guides. Recommended to use NSR standard low profile Rally sprung guides (as there will be some Rally type tracks to negotiate). Vac formed bodies are not allowed for any class. No traction magnets allowed. Guides must not protrude in front of the body. All 4 tyres must be in contact with the track surface. Only rubber or Polyurethane based tyre compounds are allowed (no silicone tyres)


To avoid running duplicate cars across Classes, if any car is listed for Class A, B, C or D, the same car model type is not entered into any of the other car eligible class lists. The RoadRace administrator decides which car models is most eligible for each class based on best available historic information and how it best fits into the structure of the event. (Reference www.racingsportscars.com. And “NASCAR The Complete History” by Greg Fielden and the Auto Editors of consumer Guide

That's me out then, the plan was to run old (very old) scratchbuilt NASCAR, but these would have to be Vac formed, and my scratchbuilds always use a JetFlag, I'm not about to change everything for a proxy race, bad enough that I was importing the shells from Australia, that will probably count out Mike from our club who was planning to enter.

Shame because I enjoy the proxy concept.

Are these going to be your rules for ALL the proxy series? if so I'll stop building my next Dakar machine.

Bernie, racing since 1969 Wavegreen
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Hi Bernie,
t is not normal  practise to run light weight Vac formed body shell's in the same events as for hard body ones, as far as I am aware of. So for the "Triple Crown Series" the rule is as most would entrants would expect. Obviously if it was a BSCRA type event vac formed bodies would be the norm.

And in fact we had the same rule in regard to No vac formed body shells in last years "Brighton to John O'Groats" Road Race

As for the Extreme Slotting, I am happy to allow Vac formed bodies into the scratch builds as I think this offers no running advantage.

In regard to the guides, the wood guides just do not work on home plastic tracks, so pointless in fitting them.

So sorry to loose you on the Triple Crown but the rule stands.
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It is a shame, I was looking forward to building a Hudson Hornet (I like to be different) and there are some wonderfully diverse shells available from Patto.
As for 'wood' guides, the only reason for them not to work on a plastic track is if they are too deep, they can be cut down, the guide on my Anglia was a 'wood' type (a Jet Flag).
My scratchbuilds are nothing like BSCRA, they wouldn't stand a chance in a class of BSCRA standard cars, they are just built for a bit of fun.
Never mind, I'll continue to support and promote your series even if I cant take part.

Bernie, racing since 1969 Wavegreen
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I have a Hudson Hornet resin body (I think) you can have  Sun 

And yes I know the wood guide can be cut down as I often finding myself doing that for people who fit them, worse is the thickness, as like last time I had to remove your guide and file the sides to a workable thickness. Why not just fit the recommended guide ?
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That's a really nice offer Graham, I didn't know that a resin version was out there, would I still be allowed a brass/piano wire chassis?

Bernie, racing since 1969 Wavegreen
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I will check tomorrow as I am off to my local club tonight.

I bought a few Slush moulded shells of this theme a few years ago, they are just the basic shell, you need to form your own windows etc.

And yes, no problem with brass chassis for resin body models.
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