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G&S Tire Grinder
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G&S Tire Grinder
A new kind of tire truing machine, suitable for most kinds of 1/32 and 1/24 wheels and axles.

   

First, the name. G is for Gaub, or Greg, whichever you prefer. S is for Samson, as in Dennis Samson. His original design for a rotating sanding drum machine for whole axles (e.g. pressed on wheels) inspired this design to a great extent. It was with his input and feedback, along with others in the community, that this machine was finally realized as shown. I also owe thanks to Giacomo Verlini, aka JamieG from Sweden, for his design for the sanding sleeve drums that I have used for this machine. You can find his Tyre Truer MKIII for slot cars 1/32 and many other great models on his Thingiverse page.

This machine is intended to be a "good enough" machine to get casual racers started with their tire truing needs. It is not intended to replace or compete with precision milled machines for high level competitions. As it's designed to facilitate tire truing on a variety of 1/32 and 1/24 size tires on pressed-on plastic wheels, it's not meant for racers who are using precision metal wheels, though it can also be used for those kinds of wheels/tires. Someone who has no cars with pressed on wheels should probably look elsewhere for a more precise machine, if they don't already have one.

This machine will be provided free to download, print, and build your own. The license is Creative Commons, Attribution, Non-Commercial, Share-Alike. From a practical standpoint, that just means no one else is allowed to market or sell the files, plans, prints, or completed machines without my express permission. Credit to my project must be given any time the machine is shown or shared. Since I'm releasing it as open source, the "Share-Alike" part of the license means that if you design a machine that is derived from this design, you must also share it as open source with the appropriate credit to me. If you are contacted by someone to print the parts as a printing service, you have my permission to do so, but you cannot advertise that you are printing the parts for sale. I reserve the right to market and sell prints and/or machines until I am no longer able to do so. Pricing for prints/kits/machines TBD.

All of the parts are designed to be printed on any FFF (filament) 3d printer with no need for supports. PLA can be used, and is preferred, for the majority of parts due to its rigidity. Parts that are subject to heat, such as the pulleys and sanding drums, should be printed in PETG, or similar high temperature material. The largest piece, the base plate, measures 168x120mm, and so should be able to be printed on most machines, even many of the "mini" printers.


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  • 19x - M3x10mm Socket Head Cap Screws
  • 10x - M3x6mm Socket Head Cap Screws
  • 2x - M3x6mm countersunk screws
  • 2x - M3x4mm set screws
  • 16x - M3 Square Nuts
  • 1x - 1/4-20 x 4.5" Hex Head Bolt, fully threaded
  • 2x - 1/4-20 x 2" Hex Head Bolt, fully threaded
  • 3x - 1/4-20 x 7/32" Hex Nuts
  • 1x - 1/4-20 Nylon Lock Nut
  • 1x - 1/4-20 Acorn Hex Nut
  • 1x - 1/4x3/8x1/2" steel spacer
  • 1x - RS550 DC motor
  • 1x - 1x7 20x53x13mm Conical Spring
  • 4x - R188 bearings
  • 3x - 1-1/2" ID, 1-11/16" OD, 3/32" Width O-Rings
  • 2x - 1"x1" spiral band sanding sleeves, 80 grit
Printing instructions:

Most parts can be printed in PLA, but there should be at least 4 perimeters (1.6mm thickness) and most parts should have a strong and dense infill, such as 30% Cubic.

The round/pulley parts should be printed in PETG or other high temp material, with a random seam position to reduce a “lump” from an aligned seam.

The small pulley for the motor, and the split pulley for the slot car axle should be printed 100% infill because they need set screws to stay in place and will split easily if not solid.

https://www.printables.com/model/459450-gs-tire-grinder

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That looks great guys, never mind 'good enough'...that should do just as good a job as any '2 wheels on axle' truer  Yes

...now if only the bottom part was on a reciprocator plate to use the full width of the grinding drums...  Sun

Life is like a box of Slot cars... Cool Drinkingcheers
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LOL! and Thanks! :)
Who knows, maybe I planned it that way so that I can offer a reciprocator for it. ;-)

One of the features is adjustment screws under the ball bearings of the sanding axle to ensure that it is parallel. I wish I had time to make a video before I take vacation, but I wanted it to be out there... just in case.

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Key Features of the G&S Tire Grinder
- One motor turns all axles
- Only two screws to remove/replace the entire grinding assembly for different grits
- Screws beneath the ball bearings to adjust parallel
- Spring loaded axle carrier to allow "grind and release" truing methods with ease
- Indicator knob for precise repetition of tire diameters as needed
- Consistent tension of o-rings due to double-pulley design
- O-rings can easily be moved side to side to accommodate various axle configurations
- standard 1/32 bushings snap into axle carrier, but V-shape still allows smaller or larger bushings or bearings to stay in place
- Distance between sanding drums accommodates most 1/24 and 1/32 wheels/axles
- sanding surface cannot contact axle pulley/o-ring

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Assembly Video

https://youtu.be/yfhOtThl_8c


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Looks fantastic guys - now if only I had the tech skills to print ....... :)
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well designed sturdy looking piece of kit Greg , i especially like the printed adjustment dial , very handy 
one thing that occurred to me , because there is no type of reciprocation ( either manual or mechanical side to side movement ) any high spot on the sand paper tubes grit would transfer to the tyres , leaving grooves 
i know this because i built a 3dp Hudy  style truer/grinder using these same sand paper tubes , which just like the real Hudy doesn't reciprocate at all and left grooves in the tyres 
not sure if it was the grit grade or quality of the tubes i used , but even when i tried changing out tubes the grooves were still present 
i looked at designing an oscillation mechanism but other projects took over
and is the reason i designed the reciprocator for the tyre razor type machines
not a criticism at all , or even if it is a concern for the casual racer ,  just an FYI from my own experience 
Kev
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Thanks, guys. And Kev, you're absolutely right that can happen. The lower the grit, the more likely it is to happen. I ordered some 35 grit, thinking it would be great for silicone tires. It might still be, but it was a disaster for rubber tires for that reason. The 80 grit is a lot better, of course. This is why I designed it so the entire sanding spindle can be easily replaced by removing only two screws. A user can have two or more whole spindles with their various grits to cut fast, and then cut slow, and then polish.

That said, that's a level of perfectionism that, while I'm trying to accommodate, I'm not really aiming at. Since getting both wheels perfectly parallel is a challenge on any machine, most of all this one, and even through I've added a feature to help adjust it, this isn't for people seeking that level of perfection. For the casual home racer, round and concentric is good enough. :)

All THAT said, so long as the wheels/inserts don't cause pain, one can lightly press either side of the axle to move it over a little, if a prominent line starts to show itself. :) A mechanism to do that automatically isn't on the cards, but if I get a flash of inspiration, you never know. ;)

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Small, but important update. I was asking too much of the all-plastic split pulleys for the slot car axles. After some adjustments, I was able to fit a square nut into the pulley. This gives the pulley a lot more holding power without the risk of stripping the plastic with the set screw. The model files on Printables have been updated, and all machines/kits shipped from today will come with these new pulleys. There is one for 3/32 axles, and another for 3mm axles, and both have identification markings on the model to more easily tell them apart before attempting to fit to the axle.

   

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I finally uploaded the setup and use video:


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