Nürburgring layouts - Printable Version

Nürburgring layouts - Printable Version

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toerc - toerc - 30th-Dec-19

Hi Jason,

Thanks for the layout. I don't really understand the difference between layout 1 and 2. How long should a long straight be to do the track better? Can I have race with 6 cars on the tracks? Will I need extra power? Can you also support me with which part with the "C" number so I know how to build it?

I have 2 start tracks and are driving this with my son and I like big projects?

RE: Nürburgring layouts - JasonB - 30th-Dec-19

The difference in the layouts is simply the type of corners used. Scalextric only make four different radius corner pieces, known as R1, the tightest, or smallest radius, through to R4, the widest, or largest radius. If you've already bought a set, then most, if not all of the corners will be R2 pieces. The tightest R1 corners can be awkward, especially the inside lane of the curve. I like them as a challenge, but other people don't. So, the second layout is an attempt to cut back on the number of R1 pieces, and where possible replace them with the more maneageable R2, R3, and R4 pieces.

There are many different opinions on all of this, so it's difficult to give absolute recommendations, and the same goes for the length of straight. But I'd say you need maybe 8-10 full straight pieces to allow you get up to full speed and back again. Maybe less than that if you've got fast corners at either end, maybe more if you've got a tight hairpin at both ends.

It also depends on whether you've got traction magnets in the cars. I imagine since you're just getting started, that you're using the cars as you bought them with the magnets still in place. Well, at some point in the future you might be tempted to try taking the magnets out of some of your cars, as most people find that a better driving experience, a little slower round the corners, but more fun, and less prone to cars flying off at full speed and smashing themselves to bits.

You'll definitely be able to race 6 cars, and you won't need extra power. You may need power taps, which are simply wires connected from the power base to other parts of the track to counteract the tendency for power to disappear at track joints. That's less of a problem with new track though.

I'll post the C numbers later, when I get a chance.

One other complication, as if there weren't enough already, is that if you've got "Start" track it may not be compatible with the main Scalextric Sport and Digital track system. I'm not sure though, hopefully someone who knows will pop in and enlighten us.

toerc - toerc - 30th-Dec-19

Hi,

Thanks, then I understand the differents with the layout.

I have bought two sets of digital and hopefully I can use this sets to build the track. Do you recommend me to buy piece by piece to extend or should I buy another track set with the arc pro and wireless hand controls?

Br
Tobias

RE: Nürburgring layouts - Scuderia_Turini - 30th-Dec-19

(30th-Dec-19, 09:01 PM)JasonB Wrote: One other complication, as if there weren't enough already, is that if you've got "Start" track it may not be compatible with the main Scalextric Sport and Digital track system. I'm not sure though, hopefully someone who knows will pop in and enlighten us.

I don't think Tobias has "Scalextric START" sets as such, his sets are digital and all the Hornby digital sets use the "Scalextric SPORT" track.
Tobias - are the track sections soft (Sport) or hard (Start) plastic?

Leo

RE: Nürburgring layouts - woodcote - 30th-Dec-19

Both Jason's tracks look fabulous and would make really nice 2-lane digital tracks for six cars.

I agree with Jason's suggestion of starting with more simple layout and planning longer-term for the Nürburgring. The reason I say this is that a challenging circuit can be too much when you have all the challenges of digital racing - overtaking, avoiding other cars on your lane, pit stops, strategy and responding to features such as 'weather' and 'incidents' in the app (if you choose to use these). A simple track can help you focus on the digital skills until they become familiar. It is an enjoyable learning curve!

Which digital sets do you have? If you have ARC Pro, that is a really good basis for digital racing. If you don't, the C1404 ARC Pro Le Mans 24 hour set is a great starter set and good value. You will need two P9300 power supplies to run six cars - plus six C8438 wireless controllers and digital chips in each of the cars. The starter set comes with one power supply and two controllers. You will also need a pit lane entry and exit (C7015 "right-hand" for the Nürburgring plan) plus C7016 single lane half-straights. Jason's plans have five C7036 straight lane changers - you will get one in a digital starter set and you can gradually add the others over time. As Jason said, you will probably need to add power tap (booster) cables for the Nürburgring - but not for a shorter starter circuit.

Starting with a more basic layout will give you and your fellow racers the opportunity to learn the ins and outs of digital racing, how the ARC app works (guide here: https://slotracer.online/arc-pro-guide/) and try the alternative Magic app (www.magicstudio.eu/index.php/games/arcapp). You will see what you like (and what you don't like) and adjust your wishlist for what you want from your layout and race room. One thing to consider is whether you are happy displaying the app screen on a large tablet or project it onto a screen or monitor - and where you will locate it.

As for cars, I like the Scalextric GT3 models (here) - Porsche 911 RSR, Mercedes-AMG, BMW Z4, Aston Martin Vantage, Bentley Continental, McLaren MP4-12C. All those have similar performances, but slightly different characteristics. They all take the C8515 easy-fit digital plug and work well with ARC Pro. They run very well as they come and if you decide to try them without traction magnets.

I hope that helps.

toerc - toerc - 30th-Dec-19

Hi,

I will take a photo on the boxes when I'm back from the family vacation.

I will wait for Jason and the specs with which parts and where to put them.

I agree, think big and start small are the right way but I have got acceptance from the family to buy everything to be able to make this track. Can't give away the opportunity?

Thanks all for your thoughts and experience, all my friends think I have been cracy?

Br
Tobias

RE: toerc - woodcote - 30th-Dec-19

(30th-Dec-19, 09:59 PM)toerc Wrote: I have got acceptance from the family to buy everything to be able to make this track. Can't give away the opportunity?

One left-field thought - Jason developed the J-Track system which builds circuits with modules. Perhaps the layout could have the flexibility of two circuits - the Sprintstrecke could be an optional smaller layout, converting from the full Großer Preis-Strecke with the addition of a hairpin? That could give some variety and an easier layout for new racers.

More conventional thoughts...

For a digital layout, I would much prefer Jason's second layout with the wider turns, making the tightest corner the one (Yokohama-S) at the end of the bottom (start/finish) straight. Although you lose a feature of the real circuit, I would also be tempted to remove the NGK-Schikane before the pit entry to give another long straight. I think that gives you a fabulous digital racing layout.

I would put the pit lane on the bottom straight, with the entry after the corner - you'll need a lane changer going into that corner and the speed further up the straight will be high and a recipe for rear-ending cars starting to slow for the pits. Precise placement of the lane changers and the powerbase can be considered, tested and changed, if necessary.

The ARC Pro powerbase should not be too near a lane changer, straight after a corner or enclosed within the pit lane section. It would work best in a slower section (after the Mercedes Arena, replacing the lane changer). The starting grid should be as it is on the real circuit (on the bottom straight), even though the powerbase is further round the layout. We often do that on our digital tracks and it works well.

RE: Nürburgring layouts - JasonB - 31st-Dec-19

I would always pay attention to Andy's suggestions as he's had a lot more experience of digital racing.

With that in mind, here's a layout that incoporates some of those suggestions. It's 7.02 x 2.98m. I haven't drawn in the powerbase as there are two different types, which are different sizes, I believe.

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Here are the track pieces.

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And here's a rough shopping list. You'll obviously need to cross check this and take out any pieces you already have.

Track
C8205   Straight x16
C8207   1/2 Straight x6
C8200   1/4 Straight x2
C8236   Short Straight x1
C8202   R1 x2
C8206   R2 x7
C8204   R3 x10
C8235   R4 x12
C8234   1/2 R2 x2
C7036   Lane changer x5 (or perhaps 4, if you replace one with the powerbase)
C7015   Right hand Pit Lane in/out   x1 set
C7016   Single lane straight x12
C7018   Starting Grid x3

Borders
C8233   Straight border lead in/out   x11 pairs
C8223   Half straight border x5 (two of these will need to be cut up to make borders for 1/4 straights which Scalextric don't make)
C8240   Outer border R1   x2
C8279   Inner border R1   x2
C8228   Outer border R2   x17
C8280   Inner border 1/2 R2 x1
C8239   Outer border 1/2 R2   x2
C8281   Inner border R3   x1
C8224   Outer border R3   x10
C8238   Outer border R4   x12
C8282   Inner border R4 x2

toerc - toerc - 31st-Dec-19

Hi,

Thanks allot and now I'm ready to start build my first track.

// Tobias

RE: Nürburgring layouts - JasonB - 31st-Dec-19

Let us know how you get on, and please share lots of photos. Thumbup