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Newbie And New Builds - nberga - 25th-Feb-21
Hi,
Where can we find something to help us newbies understanding the compatibility of a chassi with the right motor mount (I already search and found many info about types of motor, and already did a motor upgrade successfully on one of the SCX car) with the right body to fit it, or this is just something you will go with try and error?
For example I'am wanting to build a McLaren F1 GTR, already choose the chassi, is a Evo.6 V3 from SLot.it but what motor motor mount I can go with it? And what offset? Or without?
The first choice I could make was to go with a Sidewinder motor, not knowing if it's the best or not but will build more cars to check the best type of motor.
In these baby steps I just want to race on the track I have at home and maybe later go on some club racing.
Cheers.
RE: Newbie And New Builds - KensRedZed - 25th-Feb-21
Hi Nberga,
Experimenting with these things is have the fun of the hobby.
Clubs have rules that usually request a specific drive for a class of car. Check the rules of the clubs near you before making all sorts of cars that may not be legal for the clubs you are considering.
Sometimes a car is made with a sidewinder to fit a complete interior. Other cars are front motor drive for the same reason. The type of drive often depends on the body style of the car. Some cars simply can't fit a sidewinder.
Flat-6's won't fit in most cars as a sidewinder, so it is often installed as an anglewinder, or inline.
You can make 2-cars exactly alike. There's a good chance one will outperform the other. Figuring out why is another learning curve.
Sidewinders seem to have a smoother mechanical gear mesh if you can fit one in the body.
Have fun!
RE: Newbie And New Builds - nberga - 25th-Feb-21
(25th-Feb-21, 01:31 PM)KensRedZed Wrote: Hi Nberga,
Experimenting with these things is have the fun of the hobby.
Clubs have rules that usually request a specific drive for a class of car. Check the rules of the clubs near you before making all sorts of cars that may not be legal for the clubs you are considering.
Sometimes a car is made with a sidewinder to fit a complete interior. Other cars are front motor drive for the same reason. The type of drive often depends on the body style of the car. Some cars simply can't fit a sidewinder.
Flat-6's won't fit in most cars as a sidewinder, so it is often installed as an anglewinder, or inline.
You can make 2-cars exactly alike. There's a good chance one will outperform the other. Figuring out why is another learning curve.
Sidewinders seem to have a smoother mechanical gear mesh if you can fit one in the body.
Have fun!
KensRedZed,
That's my state of mind always, learning has i go forward :D
This very first stage i'm just going to learn at home and take the most fun of it, but i love to build, i did it on the 1/10 and now i'am going to do it again :D
Thanks for the help.
Cheers.
RE: Newbie And New Builds - nberga - 25th-Feb-21
Oh and BTW, one of the most fun i will also take from here is that i have a 3D company so i'am guessing it will be fun also to test something on that stage but first will go with the ones that already are there and later on will try and build something from the 3D.
RE: Newbie And New Builds - Nonfractal - 25th-Feb-21
Slot.it chassis' take slot.it motor mounts.
The format (angle / side/ inline) of the motor is driven by
- personal preference
- the limitations of the chassis (eg can the chassis support all formats?)
- the limitations of the body (some car bodies and interiors hang low so can only clear certain motors and formats)
- rules and regulation at the event you are racing.
Offsets are an advanced tuning technique so I would advise not to go that way initially.
Nothing wrong with starting with a sidewinder. Less likely to run into fouling issues during the build.
See pdf in the link below
http://slot.it/spares2019/
Page 16 ( and forward) lists motors mount options.
As soon as you can, go and visit your local club track even if you don't race initially, there is lots to learn there.
Tune in to worldwide slot chat next week.
I'll be going through the motor formats.
Watch yesterday's slot chat in you tube.
Dennis did a good summary on the various motor types.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70PjXvq5mkQ
AlanW
RE: Newbie And New Builds - CMOTD - 25th-Feb-21
Welcome to the bizarre world of car modification, you haven't even scratched the surface yet. Wait till you progress to axle diameters/wheel/tyre sizes/compounds/gearing ratios etc.
There is a complete lack of standardisation across the many manufacturers and millions of possible combinations so it's virtually impossible for anybody to produce a complete chart of what part fits which other part. Sticking to a single manufacturers' parts is a sensible way to begin though.
That is what forums are for - ask and you shall receive. Pendle slot racing are also a mine of information, a phone call to them about the compatibility of something you are considering is well worth while.
Eventually you will manage to build up your own database of knowledge and be able to help other people. In the meantime, have fun and experiment.
RE: Newbie And New Builds - nberga - 25th-Feb-21
(25th-Feb-21, 01:48 PM)Nonfractal Wrote: Slot.it chassis' take slot.it motor mounts.
The format (angle / side/ inline) of the motor is driven by
- personal preference
- the limitations of the chassis (eg can the chassis support all formats?)
- the limitations of the body (some car bodies and interiors hang low so can only clear certain motors and formats)
- rules and regulation at the event you are racing.
Offsets are an advanced tuning technique so I would advise not to go that way initially.
Nothing wrong with starting with a sidewinder. Less likely to run into fouling issues during the build.
See pdf in the link below
http://slot.it/spares2019/
Page 16 ( and forward) lists motors mount options.
As soon as you can, go and visit your local club track even if you don't race initially, there is lots to learn there.
Tune in to worldwide slot chat next week.
I'll be going through the motor formats.
Watch yesterday's slot chat in you tube.
Dennis did a good summary on the various motor types.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70PjXvq5mkQ
AlanW
Awesome!!!
Will do!!!
Thanks
RE: Newbie And New Builds - nberga - 25th-Feb-21
(25th-Feb-21, 01:58 PM)CMOTD Wrote: Welcome to the bizarre world of car modification, you haven't even scratched the surface yet. Wait till you progress to axle diameters/wheel/tyre sizes/compounds/gearing ratios etc.
There is a complete lack of standardisation across the many manufacturers and millions of possible combinations so it's virtually impossible for anybody to produce a complete chart of what part fits which other part. Sticking to a single manufacturers' parts is a sensible way to begin though.
That is what forums are for - ask and you shall receive. Pendle slot racing are also a mine of information, a phone call to them about the compatibility of something you are considering is well worth while.
Eventually you will manage to build up your own database of knowledge and be able to help other people. In the meantime, have fun and experiment.
Many thanks for your help!!!
Will go smooth on that.
"Slow is smooth and smooth is fast"!!!
RE: Newbie And New Builds - Savage GT - 25th-Feb-21
A read through a good few post in the scratch forum section will also help.
Many may appear quite advanced, and there is much to aspire too, but the information included in the posts often helps explain things.
And when there is a specific question you have, if the answer can't be found, the helpful bunch on here will point you the right way
The Slot It McLaren F1 GTR is a good starting point, it will allow all of the layout configurations (if I recall correctly) so you can experiment to see which you prefer.